Bitcoin Review Podcast BR036 - Lightning Privacy & Splice Panel ft. Tbast, Dusty, Tony, Jeff & Vivek
I’m joined by guests Tbast, Dusty, Tony, Jeff & Vivek to discuss lightning privacy and splicing.
Discussion Topics
- 00:01:17 Housekeeping
- 00:02:14 Guest introductions
- 00:04:29 Current state of LN privacy
- 00:05:40 Receiver privacy
- 00:06:58 Blinded paths
- 00:12:31 Obscurity of lightning
- 00:13:47 Onchain privacy compared to lightning privacy
- 00:19:57 Lightning privacy challenges
- 00:21:57 PTLCs
- 00:22:48 Routing and LSPs
- 00:24:20 Gossip filters
- 00:25:36 Gossip and BOLT7 summary
- 00:27:27 Speed of development
- 00:29:22 Lightning implementations and compatability
- 00:31:38 BOLT12
- 00:34:00 Why an additional node implementation? (LDK)
- 00:40:04 Feature experimentation and market validation
- 00:43:29 Communicating feature sets
- 00:45:05 Payment descriptions
- 00:47:32 Nostr and zaps
- 00:50:25 Custodial lightning and censorship resistance
- 00:54:39 Splicing
- 00:57:51 Scaling
- 01:01:32 Bitcoin core changes that would advance lightning
- 01:08:06 Testing, breaking and adversarial actions
- 01:12:48 Shadow channels
- 01:15:52 Splicing (cont.)
- 01:22:04 Payjoins and keysend
- 01:25:52 Blockspace concerns
- 01:34:04 Taproot channels and gossip
- 01:41:09 Splicing (cont.)
- 01:42:13 Signing, UTXOs and pre-signed splices
- 01:47:15 FROST
- 01:47:60 Swap-in potentium
- 01:48:49 ecash
- 01:53:18 Final thoughts
Notes & Resources
- lightningsplice.com
- Lightning Privacy Research
- Current State of Lightning Network Privacy by Tony
- Hidden Lightning Network Stats
- lnproxy.org
- FROST: Flexible Round-Optimized Schnorr Threshold Signatures by Chelsea Komlo & Ian Goldberg
- FROST-BIP340
- Swap-in-Potentiam: Moving Onchain Funds “Instantly” To Lightning by Jesse Posner
- Point Time Locked Contracts (PTLCs) (Bitcoin Optech)
- BOLT7
- BOLT12
- BOLT #9: Assigned Feature Flags
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